2020年3月31日星期二

[AC] 問﹕Chiller 有邊幾種?有別有啲乜特點?

答﹕

首先講大分類,Water Cooled Chiller & Air Cooled Chiller
最大分別係佢地個Condensor散熱方式,前者係用水散熱(連住Set Cooling Tower),後者用風散熱。
Water Cooled Chiller好處係COP高,即係Operating Cost低得多;但同時佔地多,initial cost高,Cooling Tower要用水,泵sets等部件多咗意味住可靠性都低咗maintenance都複雜咗。
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之後再以Comperssor分類Reciprocating Chiller / Screw Chiller / Centrifugal Chiller,Water Cooled Chiller & Air Cooled Chiller 都可以用呢啲Compressor




用唔同Compressor,以致個Cooling Capacity/COP都唔同




Reciprocating
Screw
Centrifugal
Air Cool Capacity
Lower than 1500kW
Air Cool COP
Around 3
Water Cool Capacity
35-700kW
100-2100kW
350-4000kW (380V)
20000kW (11kV)
Water Cool COP
Around 5
Around 6
Characteristic
Relatively higher noise & vibration, 小型用
中型至大型
大型

For min. COP requirement, your can refer EMSD BEEO 2018 Edition, 以上都只係個方便記既約數。如果有落VSD的話,Air cooled 加1 咁上下,Water cooled 加1.5-2



 Energy Saving Consideration:
- 加VSD,Air cool 同 Water Cool 都用得,high initial cost for device & control, part load上表現好
- Oil Free Compressor, Air cool 同 Water Cool 都用得,high initial cost for device & control, Integrated Part Load Value IPLV & Full Load 都比傳統Chiller好,有study say 慳電30%

原理﹕
Air Bearing - 個Shaft 轉起上嚟嗰陣有個air gap, 個leaf foil 脹開令到個Shaft 轉起嚟嗰陣掂唔到其他地方

Magnetic Bearing - 用Magnetic keep 個Shaft 响中間


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQtNM72swO0

- Increase chilled water temperature, say 7oC to 8oC,但要考慮dehumidification問題,同埋可能會反而開冷氣開耐咗,要做個retro-commissioning先知

仲有種特別啲既Chiller 叫 Absorption Chiller,佢既特點係冇咗Compressor嗰part,用熱,尤其係廢熱取代。COP相對低,say 0.6-2

Chiller Maintenance
留定啲窿、I-Beam, Eye Bolt可以成部吊走

(Source: TheEngineeringMindset.com, EMSD BEEO)

2020年3月30日星期一

[PD] 問﹕一單新project由申請供水到完工既流程係點?

答﹕

一開JOB,首先要搵顧問 (或業主自己),向水記check下該地段有冇Fresh / Flush water supply, 即係WWO132, 大概講下你棟新樓係乜用途、預估水用量等。OK的話WSD會覆張WWO1004比你。
之後則師出到張GBP後,機電顧問就可以預備Vertical Plumbing Line Diagram VPLD,Water meter schedule, 預算水缸大小及種類。
有晒呢堆資料後,就向WSD入WWO542 (係人都入得,有張公司BR就得) 申請供水proposal,之後水記會比返張批準信你同埋要你交按金。
之後就到入WWO46 Part 1, 2, 都係入VPLD同埋Annex等一系列潔具用品,呢部份就真係要搵AP同水喉匠簽名。
跟住水記會覆返張WWO46 Part 3 比你話你聽開得工。

流程如下圖﹕

之後就開工。嗰張嘢叫Paritial Part 4, 類似地渠咁入form, 驗牌子,3M鉛捧。Underground藏喉的話要RPE加簽。
完工後入正式Part 4 驗安裝咗既嘢。

Part 4要入既嘢包括﹕對Annex, Layout, 其實即係你之前Part 1, 2 入嗰啲嘢,驗鉛紀錄
之後水記會覆張Part 5A 比你話你聽你啲嘢已裝好及驗完,但不等於比水紙。

跟住再填WWO132 Part 2 叫佢嚟駁水,WSD報稱要預早三個月通知。

跟住要比每層樓三次循環沖洗紀錄約水記夾驗水板,每個ZONE攞三個板,有14個parameters要驗,除大樓外,大喉入水嗰個位都要驗。

OK後,先比埋個張WWO46 PART 5B你。最後比埋張water supply cert.你。

3M驗鉛棒用法﹕攞支嘢响焊接位擦一擦,變紅色即係有鉛。

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設計考慮﹕
系統分zone, 同消防差唔多,最高幾層加Pump, 之後過50m要加減壓制。一般都三Zone, 加泵一Zone, Gravity 一Zone, 減壓制一Zone.
首先講水缸點Size, 最常識都諗到,就係由Daily Consumsion 去估算。
以下數字大概知道就得 頭十個單位每個單位135L,之後就每個90L;Cleasing and irrigation都係45L per point; 沖廁水就45L一個Point, 理得尿兜也好屎塔也好,都係呢個數。呢堆數據可以由WSD Plumbing Handbook搵到。

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改善鉛水問題及應對方案﹕
Time to time Inspection and checking。WSD有個 Enhanced Water Quality Monitoring Programme. 有六種金屬會進行監測,分別係銻、鎘、鉻、銅、鉛、鎳。
WSD會全港隨機抽樣 (非強制),由一個WSD Water Sampler + 一個獨立顧問LP上門攞水板。
首先會隨機攞一次水板,如果第一次超標就會試第二次。第二次試法係先放水五分鐘,再等三十分鐘先攞。
如果超標,冇計架,惟有裝濾水器或用蒸餾水煮食。

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WSD而家有啲新嘢係Automatic Meter Reading (AMR) System

(鳴謝﹕K)

[EL] 問﹕ Lift / Elevator 有啲乜Safety Devices?

答﹕

Devices for locking the door:
- 有機械臂等裝置,令到棟LIFT門關好後部LIFT先可以郁;

Over speed governors:
- 過咗一定速度就有機械裝置剎停部LIFT;

Buffer:
- LIFT槽底個彈弓,有Hydraulic 或 Mechanical, 只係防墮幾層;

Safety Break / Safety Gear:
- 失速時/斷纜時夾住條Rail;



Essential Power:
- 冇電嗰陣都仲可以停去最近樓層及開門;

Fire Resistant Cable:
- For lift homing and Fire Services Lift

優質Youtube參考,睇透成部Lift結構﹕https://www.yotube.om/watch?v=uX9i5YAVhQw


(Source: 香港電梯資料網 hkelev.com, EMSD)

[FS] [PD] 問﹕消防水泵同普通用水泵最大分別係乜?

答﹕

消防水泵要試三點


即係BS EN 12845個Table 16

先講第一點,會响個Control Valve C Gauge度試;
第二點都係响C Gauge度試;
第三點回缸嘔住水模擬緊堅係爆咗頭情況,嚟確定第一、二點都做到呢個Pressure & Flow Rate. 
(我估呢個亦都係點解Control Valve Set要放响地下原因,目的就係為咗可以直接用呢個點嚟簡單Pre Calculation)
(至於點解要試兩點,有一個講法係第一點同第二點分別模擬成個Sprinkler System 最高最遠嗰點同埋最高嗰點;仲有一個講法係用嚟確定你個PumpCharateristic, 睇你會唔會一Drop少少Pressure個Flow就會Drop到唔乎合requirement)

至於消防水泵條Pump Curve一般嚟講應該Flat啲定Steep啲好啲?其實應該係Flat啲好,首先係我地都唔知邊個ZONE方粒頭會爆,即係幾時都唔知道條System Curve係點。如果太Steep個Flow同Pressure比起第二同第三點測試個差會好大唔同。

唔同Zone的話係用Multi Stage Pump再以唔同Outlet嚟供水,唔同Outlet provide到唔同Head




普通水泵只要試一點;

此外消防泵係要以High Rupturing Capacity (HRC) Fuse嚟保護,主係係MCB 同 FUSE 跳制特性有關,say 25A MCB同25AFUSE, 如果篤50A電流入去,MCB幾秒就跳,但FUSE可能要十幾廿分鐘先跳。咁就就算overloading 都好,個消防泵就可以堅持到最後一刻。<--以前聽過N咁多個版本解釋呢樣嘢,暫時覺得呢個版本較可信。

直到睇到 電氣生涯 Electrical Lift: https://lifelectrical.blogspot.com/2018/04/fuse.html ,發現呢個解釋最清楚,詳見上link留言部份高手嘅解釋。


(鳴謝﹕Aska Chan, 肥喵; Source: BS EN 12845)

[EL] 問﹕How to Plan & Design Electricity Supply System for Building?

答﹕

Supply side:
  1. Dual HV feeders from the supply grid for sensitive buildings;
  2. Decentralize, if more than 3 Tx, multiple room, ensure Tx room & LV switch room free of water hazard; Transformer room & LV switch room closed to the load centre if possible to reduce copper loss;


    一般1500kVA一隻牛,但可特別申請2000kVA;一間房可放一至三隻牛。
  3. Dual supplies and Interconnecting facilities, if multi-transformer installation, backup Tx capable to handle essential load from failure Tx, say 25%;
    Diverse supply routing, main electrical distribution circuits/risers separated into two electrical rooms/risers ;
  4. Sufficient capacity reserve for various design considerations, future expansion, power harmonics from electronic ballast for lamps, VSD, IT equipment etc., say 20%;
    Spare switchgears/cable containment between the two electrical rooms/risers;
  5. Vertical in-line of risers, avoid material wastage and lower the headroom;
  6. Essential and non-essential switchboard seprate compartment;
  7. CAT5 singal transmission limit
Click開就睇到兩隻牛互相backup electrical diagram


Secondary Backup Power Supply
  1. Emergency Genset, may consider N+1 and sufficient capacity of fuel tank; https://elvissharing.blogspot.com/2020/03/el-fs-genset.html
  2. Plug in point for mobile genset
  3. UPS/EPS (香港好似叫Central Battery System CBS;

    Genset initial & operating cost最平,UPS最貴,切換最快;EPS切換慢過UPS但平過UPS;
Metering
Electricity kWh Meters --> 計電費用
Separate Check Meters --> Energy Aduit 用
另外,啲Fixed Telecommunication Network Services FTNS Operators, 唔同商戶、停車場等,都用獨立電錶計電。main circuit, sub main circuit, freeder circuit等都會掛。

Voltage Dip Compensator:


電壓忽然發生驟降,可以用舊Voltage Dip Compensator 解決,有Capacitor Type or Battery Type

個人感想﹕商業世界同政府Project都幾唔同,商業世界求Initial cost低,慳到錢先係王道;政府則求穩,無限備份,錢唔係重點。

(鳴謝﹕Raymond Cheng)

2020年3月29日星期日

[EL] 問﹕Protective Device 有幾多種?佢地有啲乜特點?


答﹕

以下概念一定要搞清﹕

Overloading: 即係你一次駁太多電器令條線路超過負荷;

Fault: 可睇成係有兩種

一種叫Short Circuit Fault,三相的話相同相碰埋電流最大;單相就火線同中性線碰埋;

另一種叫Earth Fault,即係相接地,個電流相對冇咁大;
Electric shock - 人掂到電器金屬外殼,咁唔好彩件嘢因一啲原因如入水,
引致有電經人體再流入大地
(Earth Fault 同 Earth Leakage兩回事嚟,前者個電流大好多,見人地個Blog)
https://lifelectrical.blogspot.com/2018/03/blog-post.html

Fuse
特徵係斷流容量(Breaking Capacity)同個Range好大,只有保護overloading 特性。
如果三相電機以fuse保護,萬一燒斷其中一相,其餘兩相會電壓上升,要加Over/Under
Voltage Relay保護。
最主要係比MCCB平,但斷就就要換冇得打個制解決;Earth Fault要做Discrimination都要考慮,有機會上游先跳佢都未斷,主要原因係Earth Fault current會較細,特性上相對不易起反應。
種類如下﹕(睇下就得,大概係2A-1000A都有)
BS88 Part 2; 2A-1250A, breaking 80kA (High breaking capacity fuse)
BS88 Part 6; 2A-63A, breaking 80kA (High breaking capacity fuse)
BS 1361 I; 5A-45A, breaking 16.5kA
BS 1361 II; 60A-100A, breaking 33kA
BS 1362 (插頭內用); 2A-13A, breaking 6kA


Fuse Switch (F/S)
同負載及電源都唔相連,換Fuse唔怕觸電
MCB
一般都係100A內,斷咗後打返制就得。如果三極式MCB保護三相電機就可以令三相同時斷。
由脫扣特性可見得既有overloading 保護特性(條curve慢去,唔會因loading 稍大一啲就跳制;
亦同時有short circuit 保護特性,因為short circuit 電流好大,佢可以即刻跳制)
Type B: 電阻性較大既電器如Heater
Type C: 電感性較大既電器如Motor

MCCB:
同MCB差唔多,但比MCB個構造更硬淨,額定電流同breaking current capacity 都比較高
比起Fuse Switch, 3000A都有,但去到大Rating就會揀用ACB,原因係ACB頂到既Fault
大過MCCB。MCCB亦相對貴,對Earth Fault 有效啲;跳制係三相齊斷會影
响其他相用戶,三相齊斷對維修工人亦安全啲。

ACB:
供電端用,如大過800A,會考慮用ACB;大唔過,就會用fuse switch or MCCB

IDMTL Relay: (Inverse Definite Minimum Time Lag)
Protective Current Transformer PCT
兩樣最重要既嘢,有Plug setting (P.S.) and Time Multiplier (T.M.). 
前者按個線圈比例較個電流;後者較跳嗰個時間。
可作為Overloading and earth fault protective device,用嚟較隻MCCB/ACB幾時跳
ACB and MCCB can build in overload and earth fault protection,  if NOT, should using
IDMT relay to give signal to ACB and MCCB to trip
如果用嚟做"低壓來電總制"protection, 就要睇電力公司要求。兩間電力公司各有唔同要求。



RCCB (水總): 
俗稱水氣制,相線同中性線之間有0.03A difference就要0.4s跳制(人掂到先係0.4跳制,
人掂唔到既電器可以5s跳制)

一般而言,手掂唔到既嘢,如Fuse spur for exhaust, AC, water heater 等等,就唔洗水氣制保護;但插蘇嗰啲就要經水氣制。留意呢隻嘢係主要保護人,好小電流差同好短時間就跳;但Earth Fault, 即係由IDMT較嗰隻,就預個電流大得多。

*RCCB係RCD+MCCB; RCDO係RCD+MCB, RCD - Residual Current Device *RCBO, 係上述既嘢加多條水線,又叫老鼠尾水氣掣,呢條嘢可以攞嚟過走啲Harmonic
Current, 所以又叫濾波形水氣掣。下圖為RCBO

再參考,有啲自帶RCCB Socket, 如果有漏電就唔洗咁易直接跳個MCB Board裡面隻嘢

如果經常有Earth Fault以至上游先跳可以點?冇計架,無非都係下游裝多啲RCD之類既嘢,等唔洗大家一齊冇電用;又或加多個MCCB,因為ACB雖然個Fault Capacity 大過MCCB,但MCCB對Earth Fault 係有效啲。

Discrimination (區別運作):
要跳完下游先再跳上游



制櫃設計留意﹕
前900mm, 後600mm, 一般唔超過2m,

制櫃測試﹕
有兩Round, 一Round 係Factory Accpetance Test, 响制櫃間廠試;
落到地盤後有個Site Acceptance Test, 現場再試;

1. Check 制面對唔對圖同CATALOGUE 2. Primary Injection Test (試MCT) 甩IDMT,試Measure CT/ Protection CT Polarity and Ratio

3. Secondary Injection Test (試PCT)
試IDMT,Plug Setting and Time Multiplier
4. Insulation (Resistance) Test D.C. 1000V test insulation resistance 5. Pressure Test 2500V A.C. 加落條Live同Earth之間 6. Phase Sequence Test Phase sequence of each outgoing unit is the same as the supply source 7. Function Test ACB, MCCB, Indication Lamp

前排發現有個Blog講電相關寫得好好﹕
https://lifelectrical.blogspot.com/

上述堆Test詳情都係睇人寫好過睇我寫
http://lifelectrical.blogspot.com/2019/03/preventive-maintenance-pm.html

(Source: 電力裝置實用手冊2013)

[AC] 問﹕Underground 停車場抽風系統設計,有啲乜地方需要留意?

答﹕

Design Considerations:

- 大量Toxic gas if not perfect combusion, e.g. Nitrogen Oxides (NOx), Carbon Monoxide (CO),EPD 出過指引唔可以超過某個限額

Design Strategies:

- EPD 出過個Scheme, 要隨時monitor住個NOx & CO level, 要收三個訊號,i) 正常Level, ii) Concertration 超標, iii) Fault/Failure, 如果濃度超標過四分鐘,就要即時踢起個ventilation system直至濃度回復正常水平;

- 用Jet Fan 射散啲空氣,operating cost慳過舖滿風管;亦可省卻某啲位Headroom for air duct as 可放陣void; 由上述CO sensor 踢郁,如圖

- EPD 要求25m之內要有一個CO sensor, 出/入口一定要有sensor;

- 再高階啲可以用CFD 模擬實際情況

- 除此之外Car Park 仲要留意EV Charger, Petrol Inteceptor Design

(鳴謝﹕紅豆; Source: EPD ProPECC PN 2/96)

[AC] 問﹕街市/超級市場空調系統設計上有啲乜要考慮?

答﹕

Design Considerations:

- 大型冷藏櫃 Refrigerated Display Case, Large Sensible Load source,開櫃門的話又係一個大冷源;

- 大量人流,開住大門Outdoor Air Intake,Latent Load Source

Design Strategies:

- Design MVAC system 嗰陣要考慮Refrigerated Display Case factor, AC system sensor location;

- 可考慮reclaim waste heat from Refrigerated Display Case, 但香港似乎不太適用

- Slight possitive pressure to eliminate infiltration of unconditioned outdoor air;

- Air Curtain to create air barrier


- Dehumidification, cost effecitive humidity control in the HVAC system
Condensation or Desiccant Dehumidifiers

(鳴謝﹕紅豆; Source: ASHRAE Handbook Application - Retail Facilities)

[PD] 問﹕講下揀一個水泵有啲乜要考慮?

答﹕

1. Pump Curve from catalogue, pump curve 會顯示個pump既Pressure Head & Flow Rate, 個Pressure Head 去到極限,個Flow Rate就會係零。當然我地都要用條System Curve碰埋去,睇下點Match Design Point

2. 睇下用幾多Power

3. 睇下個Efficiency Curve點optimize

4. 睇下個Net Positive Suction Head NPSH夠唔夠,有分NPSHA & NPSHR (A for Available, R for Requried) 
    NPSHA - 個泵Inlet嗰點既Pressure
    NPSHR - 個泵需要既Pressure,呢個Pressure要係足以被免被Cavitation破壞
    NPSHA > NPSHR + 0.6m

根據ASHRAE Handbook 2016 - HVAC Systems and Equipment Chapter 44 Centrifugal Pumps, NPSHA大唔得過NPSHR的話,就會有cavitation, noise, 為免麻煩做設計時最好大得過;尤其係cooling tower呢類open system更加要注意。




5. 仲有其他換impeller size, 改泵速,用VSD等以致條pump curve 改變可以參考下


鳴謝﹕紅豆